I wasn't talking about token gestures. Obviously it should take more than that if you are going to refuse from the start. That is why I speak of challenges.
[Because some might think he's just messing around but he's actually quite serious about this. He wants Ren and it seems that Ren might agree if it's worth it.
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[Because some might think he's just messing around but he's actually quite serious about this. He wants Ren and it seems that Ren might agree if it's worth it.
So obviously he has to make it so.]