[Ren gives a somewhat doubtful hum at that.] Sometimes people have to learn things by themselves, though...

[He's not getting into it too far for risk of showing his own hand, but as someone who landed himself with powers he barely understood at the age of about thirteen, he has some reservations about this kind of attitude.]

You still sound kind of like you think it's her fault. But I'm kind of surprised it's that uncommon, to be honest.