I don't know what that is. [He shrugs, a little guiltily for not knowing - he's already had more than one conversation (and his fair share of arguments, honestly) about what magic is like in other worlds, and yet he still puts himself in the situation of saying something and then walking it back. Oops.

But it's hard to change his opinions on magic as a whole, so while he continues this laborious squeezing task here-] And I know magic isn't a creature. I'm not some kind of village idiot palming coins and calling it magic.

[He knows what he's talking about!!] There are herbs in nature that do the same things to men who eat them. Plants aren't evil.