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» ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ɪ ʟᴏᴠᴇ ɪᴛ › ᴊᴛᴋ ([personal profile] 1701) wrote in [community profile] nysalogs2018-09-04 11:05 am

i wait staring at the northern star

Who: Jim Kirk ([personal profile] 1701) & Kathryn Janeway ([personal profile] directives)
What: The Talk
When: nowish
Where: Wyver
Warning(s): probably nothing unless you're very sensitive about Star Trek spoilers from 2009


Jim's not stupid - and because he's not stupid, he knows Kathryn, in turn, isn't stupid. He doesn't believe that the soft semi-revelation of yeah something's up with this was a shock to her; they're both keeping quiet about too much, they've both seen and experienced too many indescribable things out in deep space.

It's still on the table to lie about it. He could. He's manipulative enough, he's done it plenty of times. But he just doesn't want to.

The bar he picked is low-energy, for Wyver, geared to the 'fuck off and leave me alone' kind of privacy versus any kind of manufactured intimacy, because that's just how the city is. Even now in the somber aftermath of near-apocalypse. Recognizable by some natives despite no longer carrying the ring he was given (not that he'd wear it anyway), he's given space, exchanging nods or low-toned greetings. It's been a rough few weeks, for these people. Longer for the refugees. He could easily slip away to Olympia, with its lesser damage and better weather, but it's another one of those things he just doesn't want to do.

"Walking around, doesn't seem so unbelievable that a giant dragon rolled through, huh?" he says to Kathryn once they're settling into a curved wooden booth.
directives: (➣ one hundred + fourteen.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-06 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Kathryn wasn't the Kirk afficianado some of her command track contemporaries were, but she knew enough about the man to have picked up on there being something off pretty early on. Hell, she spent a good part of her tenure in the Delta Quadrant pouring over his logs, reading the words that he penned himself and listening to his voice fill her ready room as she tried to find guidance and direction in a situation that left her without the helping hand of Starfleet Command.

A situation she wasn't being entirely honest about herself. She hasn't lied about where her ship has spent the past few years, but she hasn't come out and said that technically they're lost. They're not way out there in uncharted regions of space because they're on a mission, they're trying to find their way home — and now they may never see Earth or Federation Space again.

It's eating her up inside to know that she's finally hit that inevitable roadblock, that she may not ever succeed in getting them home as she promised herself she would. This is the no win scenario she was afraid of, the one she told herself she would fight back against with everything she had. She got them through Borg Space, yet she can't seem to get them out of this.

Not yet, anyway.

"I've had my ship hung from a Christmas tree like a living ornament. You'd be surprised by what unbelievable things I'm willing to at least consider buying into."
Edited 2018-09-06 00:23 (UTC)
directives: (➣ fifty-six.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-20 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm a physicist," she says simply, folding her hands together on the table before her like she were sitting at the head of the table in her ship's briefing room instead of some bar on an alien world. "I also have quite my fair share of experience when it comes to temporal matters. The DIT is going to add my name to their list of most aggravating captains."

Right under his. What was that record, seventeen?

If this was the James T. Kirk in question. She's doubted that for some time know, wondering if the was from some splintered offshoot of the timeline she was familiar with. There were things that just didn't add up, and him asking about her familiarity with time travel and parallel universes only serves to confirm those suspicions.
directives: (➣ nineteen.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-21 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Janeway takes this news in stride. She's heard stranger tales, bought into far more farfetched things, and has played a part in a few twists and turns in time herself. More importantly, she understands both the very plausible temporal nature of what he's telling her and just what a Vulcan mind meld can do to someone. There were still recollections imprinted upon her memories that were never hers to begin with, things that happened in Tuvok's childhood that occurred a good century before she was born — and yet she remembers them as if they happened just yesterday, as if she were the one who was there, walking in her trusted security officer's shoes.

"He mind melded with you," she says after a moment, nodding in understanding. "Crude, but efficient. A timesaver with one hell of a headache. I suspected you were from a divergent stream. I'm far from anything close to a historian and I admittedly don't know much about your life — or rather, the life of the James T. Kirk my histories recorded beyond his illustrious Starfleet career... and certain rumors that have managed to survive the times that I never gave much thought to one way or another." (The womanizing. It's always the notion that Kirk was a supposedly notorious ladies' man.) "But there were things here that just seemed to say something wasn't right."
directives: (➣ eighty-seven.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-23 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
"I never said that you were wrong, nor did I imply it," the other captain is quick to retort. "Being from an alternate version of the timeline I hail from doesn't automatically make you some sort of corrupt version of the man the histories I'm familiar with have recorded. Nor does it make my timeline the correct one, for all the lack of weight that word carries when it comes to temporal physics. If there's anything I know about time it's that it's fluid. It's not a tree or anything resembling a solid line. It's a puddle with many different ripples and sometimes those ripples overlap."

Even if that means those ripples collide in a way that bleeds through time in ways that cause divergencies such as his. Whatever that Romulan vessel and Ambassador Spock did...

No. She doesn't want to know. Whatever those details are, whatever happened or will happen in the 24th Century isn't something she wants to be made aware of. As keen as she was to meddle in the affairs of time where the safety and security of her crew was concerned — looking at you, Braxton — she knew better than to try and play the role of temporal guardian. To be made aware of those events would run the risk of potentially interfering in them.

His timeline exists. It needs to still exist and she wants no hand in preventing its creation. She is not the angry, embittered woman from another variant of her timeline who willingly fucked with time for what were ultimately selfish reasons.

Net yet.

Hopefully not ever. season seven is a hot mess

"And for the record, if Q took an interest in you, no matter the reason — the fact that he did means something. For an omnipotent being with unlimited control over space, matter, and time to stop and look your way, you have to be worthwhile. Q doesn't ask just anyone for help."
directives: (➣ one hundred + twenty-seven.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-25 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Kathryn was being honest when she said she didn't know much about that man's life. There were those who did, but she never took the sort of fixated interest some gained in command school in the life and times of James T. Kirk. She knew a great deal about his captaincy and the harder choices he had to make out in, what were at the time, the farthest reaches of the known universe, but otherwise the only prominent detail she knows about his life is a sad one. Something she's aware of more by proxy than anything else, as her initial background in quantum cosmology means she spent a great deal of her teenage years utterly fascinated with the Genesis Project.

The Kirk that lived in her time had a son. One who was killed unceremoniously during a struggle to control the secrets he had helped to unlock. It was an unfortunately tragic footnote to an otherwise sensational tale.

A tale she was going to keep to herself for the time being. Even if the alternate nature of his timeline opened up far more loopholes to her than were initial available, allowing her to sit more comfortable upon her throne of Federation principles and beloved Starfleet regulations while sharing information with him without feeling like she were betraying them somehow.

(Loopholes were her favorite, and she was damned good at finding them.)

"And you're still a fellow commanding officer," she says in a soft, almost strained tone that betrays how much that means to her. "Who am I to turn away someone who understands what most are incapable of fathoming unless they themselves are sitting in that chair solely on the basis that you're not from the same timeline?"
Edited 2018-09-25 02:24 (UTC)
directives: (➣ seventy-four.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-25 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's his phrasing that drives her to say it, the nail he's hit right on the head with that hammer of his whether he realizes it or not. It's that regardless of their temporal differences, this man is something that's been absent in her life for quite some time now — an equal. It's a void Chakotay tried desperately to fill that he was never quite able to do so, for no matter how far he much he managed to wedge open the cracks in her armor, the fact remained that he too was a subordinate and his experience with captaincy was a Maquis one and that didn't quite measure up to Starfleet standards.

Or her personal ones, for that matter.

"I could pull rank. I could cite regulations that may or may not exist in your own version of the timeline in order to gain superiority over you. I'd be lying if I said I hadn't thought about doing just that, but frankly, I don't want to. I have been playing the role of acting Starfleet Command for the past three and a half years with Voyager's database standing in for a crude version of the Federation Council on more occasions than I care to admit. Honestly, it's a relief to know that I don't have to do that by myself anymore."

In truth, it's also the trust he's putting in her now. Not just as a professional, but as an individual — as Kathryn and not Captain Janeway. Oh so rarely do people put faith in her because of who she is beneath that set of pips pinned to her collar. She's been losing sight of who she is without them, but somehow he's playing a part in helping to remind her.
directives: (➣ one hundred + twenty-eight.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-09-27 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Were age a factor in that, Tuvok would be in command of Voyager, not her — nevermind that he very nearly was, but the circumstances surrounding his almost captaincy isn't something she gives much thought to. There were things that happened down on that planet she and Chakotay had called their temporary (almost permanent) home that teetered on the edge of taboo, conversations and budding feelings that she could not afford to revisit. Not here, and especially not after she all but shattered the foundations of their friendship when she forged that alliance with the Borg.

"Try it and you'll find out just how formidable an opponent I can be," she says jokingly, though there's an undercurrent of seriousness resting just beneath the surface of her words that seems to say she can be a very dangerous woman when needed be. That she's had to fight to keep her and her own afloat and she wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

Janeway reaches for her drink, but she doesn't raise it to her lips. She just holds on to it, fingers wrapped around the glass, as if she needs to steady herself before giving voice to something she hasn't had to explain to another person in quite some time. A fact of her life for the past few years that didn't quite feel as heavy as it did in this moment when the weight was more or less distributed across the shoulders of one hundred and fifty other crew members who were now resting in stasis somewhere up in orbit.

"Trapped isn't the word I would use," she says for a moment. "En route is more like it. The truth is, we weren't assigned to the Delta Quadrant so much as we were brought there against our will and I have spent the past three and a half years working on a way to get my crew home."
directives: (➣ fifty-seven.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-10-15 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"You may," she says, gesturing with a sweep of her hand to indicate that the floor was open for questions.

Being in the Delta Quadrant has been a factor of her life for the past three years. It's a fact of her existence, a part of herself whether she wants it to be or not. And now that she knows he isn't from her timeline proper, she's more willing to answer his questions and be frank about her situation. It wasn't that she was ashamed or wanted to withhold that information from him so much as she is such a stickler for protocol, and it would have been a violation of the Temporal Prime Directive to inform him of an event which he may one day hold the power to change.
Edited (the tab was still open and i noticed something missing hours later: an autobiography) 2018-10-16 02:33 (UTC)
directives: (➣ ninety-five.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-10-17 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well, isn't that a loaded question.

Is she doing alright? Yes, but also no. She's a maddening contradiction of herself at the best of times, where as the captain, she's perfectly fine. But as a person, as a woman— That's an entirely different story. Kathryn's grown so accustomed to planting her feet firmly on the much more stable and even ground of Captain Janeway that having it sway and crumble beneath her feet while she's here isn't sitting well with her.

She does a remarkable job of masking it, but a few months in and this place is starting to get to her in ways the far reaches of Delta Quadrant failed to do, something that pisses her off to no end.

"Who's asking, Jim or the captain?"
directives: (➣ forty-five.)

i rewrote this like a dozen times

[personal profile] directives 2018-10-19 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
She makes a sound that sounds like it got caught on a hook in her throat somewhere between a chuckle and a sob. Her hands fold around the glass she's holding, shoulders relaxing as if the front she wears is visibly melting off of her.

"Do you know how long it's been since someone has been able to say they were my friend?" It's not something she says in order to chase pity or gain sympathy, but to give perspective, for hers is a unique one. "There are only two people aboard Voyager who could, and even then that statement came with a tacked on addendum in regards to my also being their commanding officer. Their friend and captain, because being the captain has to come first. These pips — or rather, stripes, in your case — come with a certain set of responsibilities, as well as sacrifices that have to be made. Personal ones. Ones that people who don't sit in that chair realize you have to make."

Sacrifices she's certain she doesn't have to detail to him.

"And that includes sometimes taking a sledgehammer to what few friendships you have, because you can't be their friend while also being their captain."

It's lonely at the top, and she's the stubborn lone climber sitting atop that mountain's summit. Some would even say she's as cold as those snow-covered peaks. And she could keep up with some of her more icy themes and disregard his question, brush it off with a shrug and provide an evasive answer that's deliberately designed to tell him absolutely nothing, but she's tired. It's been three and a half years, and Voyager departing from Deep Space 9 without a counselor on board has been hell on her crew.

It's about damned time she said something from the heart instead of from those four pips pinned to her collar.

"No. No, I'm not. I haven't been since the moment I stepped foot in the Delta Quadrant."
directives: (➣ seventy-four.)

to kill us both

[personal profile] directives 2018-10-21 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
"Don't be," she says, but she's grateful for the sentiment all the same.

It's a sentiment she's heard from alien dignitaries time and time again, sometimes followed by granted permission to cross through their space, other times by an apology proceeding the denial of that request. There have been moments where it's sounded like nothing more than a hollow dismissal, something she couldn't hold against those who turned her ship away but still stung nonetheless. However, hearing it from someone in her proverbial camp, who understood the weight that was pressing down on a captain's shoulders was like a balm to an open wound she hadn't realized was still that raw.

"It was a lose-lose situation and I chose the available option that was most morally sound."

Which says everything and absolutely nothing about how Voyager came to be in the Delta Quadrant. She isn't ashamed of how they came to be there or of the choice she made, but she does feel immeasurably guilty about effectively stranding her crew on the other side of the galaxy. During low points, she's tormented herself with what-if scenarios and the burden of that guilt, always blaming herself for not seeing some way to save the Ocampa and get them back home. For keeping everyone from their friends and families—

But it's always about them and not her. She can't even pinpoint when she stopped missing Mark or even thinking about him, and that engagement ring was dropped into the depths of a drawer at some point during year two and she hasn't once thought about fishing it out.

Kathryn rests her other hand atop his. She's a tactile person at times, and she selfishly appreciates that physical extension of support.
Edited 2018-10-21 23:37 (UTC)
directives: (➣ seventy-five.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-10-28 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
An even greater minority in her time, where it was almost unheard of for a ship to be completely out of range of contact with Starfleet command. Kathryn has had to take up many mantles in the absence of being able to send or receive communications of any kind. There was no response time delay, no waiting for relay stations to pick up and send back — nothing. Just her training and what she had access to within the computer's database.

"I don't consider myself defeated," she tells him. "Far from it. My crew and I have prevailed in the face of impossible odds, and we made remarkable progress on our journey home. We've encountered worlds, cultures, and phenomena previously unknown to the Federation. Voyager's databanks are a veritable treasure trove of information, and I have likely become the Federation's leading expert on not only first contacts, but the Q and the Borg, as well."

She was an ambitious woman, but yanking the proverbial rug out from under Jean-Luc Picard's feet was never part of her agenda. And yet, here she is, able to say that she not only successfully secured an alliance with the Borg, but helped bring an end to a cosmic civil war that had the potential to unravel the very fabric of space-time.
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[personal profile] directives 2018-10-30 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
She sees it — that split-second flash of something that darkens those bright blue eyes of his. How could she not? It's been a while since she's stood on the bridge of her starship, but being away from Voyager doesn't mean she's lost her grip on all those skills that not only make her a good captain, but a good diplomat (and formidable opponent).

"Jim." Her hand turns beneath his, twisting around in his grip so that she can encircle his wrist with her fingers. "Tell me."

The more direct What do you know about the Borg? goes unsaid, but is most certainly implied. Her indirect mention elicited a direct response. And if this was once again the result of Q's incessant meddling, she was going to toss him out an airlock.
Edited 2018-10-30 05:59 (UTC)
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[personal profile] directives 2018-11-01 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Becoming a leading expert on the Borg was never something she set out to do. And yet, in the wake of emerging on the clear other side of Borg Space, she found herself practically rewriting some of the reports submitted during the Battle of Wolf 359. Picard's logs in particular had been a valuable asset when she was first formulating that plan, but now they were practically irrelevant in the face of what she now knew, what she had experienced firsthand. (What Seven has experienced.)

"It was Borg technology," she concludes, giving his hand a gentle squeeze. "Technology I am willing to bet the Romulans who integrated it into that mining ship didn't know how to properly use. Borg integrations can be a powerful asset, but they are to be utilized with great caution. If not adapted properly, the technology would still resonate with a distinctive Borg signature — a considerably more advanced Borg signature, which the Collective would have immediately perceived as a threat."

Kathryn doesn't know that drones from the 24th Century already went back in time and attempted to draw the Collective towards the Alpha Quadrant during the events of First Contact. Thus, she assumes that the futuristic signatures were caught on long range sensors, drawing the Borg towards Earth a good century before they ought to have taken interest in humanity.
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[personal profile] directives 2018-11-09 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
"Inferior organics are inferior organics. It doesn't matter if they're Human, Romulan, Vulcan, or Klingon. Imperfect beings who ought to thank them for the perfection they offered."

Kathryn hesitates for a moment, teetering on the very edge of protocol as she wars with herself over leaving it there or offering up examples from her own timeline's history. The problem with the Temporal Prime Directive, she's found, is that it's not nearly as solid as the Department of Temporal Investigations would like the whole of Starfleet to believe. There is no clear outline to be found the bullet points of protocol for a lot of the situations she's been in, this one included. The best she can do is adhere to what fits and use her best judgement in regards to the rest.

Story of her life from the moment Voyager was flung into the Delta Quadrant.

"We lost forty ships at the Battle of Wolf 359 to a single cube. Over eleven thousand lives lost. The Klingons sent warships to our aide, but failed to arrive on time to help. Perhaps if they had, a turning point in the battle could have been reached sooner. I hope that whatever alliance was on the verge of being formed succeeds. The animosity between the Federation and the Romulan Senate is ultimately insignificant in the face of the threat the Borg pose."
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[personal profile] directives 2018-11-09 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't need to be said. The role her timeline played in the creation of his has already been filed away into mental reports she's made, viable reasoning beyond her willingness to share information about the Collective with him. Loopholes are her specialty.

"So can the Collective under the right circumstances," she says carefully, taking a moment to look down at their still joined hands. "Of course, the stunt I pulled with them was likely a one time occurrence and I'm pretty sure I made myself a personal enemy of the Collective in the process. I saw an opportunity to force their hand and make them cooperate with us. It was a gamble, and my first officer was vehemently against the mere notion of allying ourselves with the Borg, but it was a risk I was willing to take. One that ultimately paid off."

Even if it hadn't played out quite the way she'd hoped it would. Even if it effectively destroyed the personal relationship she and Chakotay had in the process.
Edited 2018-11-09 14:55 (UTC)
directives: (➣ seventy.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-11-10 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
So much more, especially in Kathryn's case. She's had to play a number of roles that she was both prepared for and not. There's been so much weight resting on her shoulders that having someone else to share the burden of captaincy with is a welcomed, selfish relief.

As is someone telling her that what she did was incredible and not foolish, too risky, dangerous, stupid— Deciding to propose an alliance to the Borg had been one of the loneliest decisions she's ever had to make. Chakotay always had her back, until he didn't. She understood where he was coming from, she really did, but a captain doesn't have the luxury of taking personal opinion (or preference) into consideration. If she had to be alone in her choices, so be it.

Sometimes, out in the black, a commanding officer had no choice but to be alone.

The shrug she gives him in response is a humble one; a slight lift of her shoulders that seems to say this miraculous, brazen feat she pulled off was nothing to marvel at.

"I did what I had to do, what no one else would dare to. I wouldn't have us be another Wolf 359. When I took Voyager into the heart of Borg Space, I intended to come out on the other side of it without losing the ship or getting half my crew assimilated. And I did."
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[personal profile] directives 2018-11-11 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
"Everyone was against it," she finds herself saying, perhaps because it needed to be said to an actual, living and breathing person instead of the stale air of her ready room as she recorded her logs in the best neutral, professional tone she could muster at the time. "Everyone. Not even my first officer had my back in that decision, and he went against the alliance I forged first chance he got."

That still stung. They may have set that disagreement over his supposed insubordination (supposed, because Chakotay had technically been in command at the time while she was injured and out of commission) in order to turn things back around and sever Seven's ties to the Hive Mind, but he still went against her. Still went and did the exact opposite of what she told — no, asked him to do.

It stung as both a captain and a friend, but she couldn't allow the latter to get to her. So like many things, from Mark's engagement ring to whatever now lost connection she and Chakotay had, it was set aside. To be touched upon later, perhaps never to be touched upon at all.

"I've had to make a lot of tough decisions since we found ourselves in the Delta Quadrant, but I always had Chakotay's support. Not in that instance."

Not when she had needed his support the most.
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[personal profile] directives 2018-11-16 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
That implication, although unspoken, is read loud and clear. Kathryn, however, doesn't necessarily agree with it. She appreciates him saying what she cannot bring herself to — that was unbelievably shitty of him (and it was) — but nevertheless rises to Chakotay's defense.

It's impulse at this point, defending her crew. Defending the ex-Maquis. She may or may not have a solid defense already built up to present to Starfleet Intelligence in hopes of preventing them all from being whisked away to a penal colony the moment Voyager crosses Federations borders. (She absolutely does.)

"Perhaps, but he was in command at the time." It's here that she withdraws her hands, laying them on top of one another on the table before her. Shields up, defense mechanisms in place. Closing off as much as she's opening up, always a constant contradiction of herself. "As much as I hate that he disobeyed orders, he had every right to make that decision while I was out of commission."
directives: (➣ ninety.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-11-24 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
A defense mechanism at its finest, constructed out of necessity. She wasn't always so closed off, so distant, but Kathryn realized early on in their journey that she was going to have to set boundaries if she was going to play this pivotal role in keeping her crew together. Being impartial was a necessity, and she could not afford to make decisions based on her personal attachments or views.

Chakotay did the opposite. He allowed his personal feelings towards the Borg and what Riley Frazier did to him to cloud his judgement. He was against the alliance from the start, and it hadn't taken much to convince him that tossing the drones aboard Voyager out the literal airlock was in the best interest of the crew. She fully believed that he thought he was doing everyone a favor, that he was protecting the ship (and her), but it hadn't been the correct choice to make.

The right Maquis choice, perhaps, but not the Starfleet one. As much as that betrayal stung, and still throbs from time to time like a dull ache in her chest, it only reinforced her way of thinking. Her self-imposed distance.

A distance she doesn't have to maintain while here.

Her shoulders sag, some of the tension bleeding out of her as she wills herself to relax.

"I know you are, and I appreciate that more than you know."
directives: (➣ eighty-eight.)

[personal profile] directives 2018-12-08 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Both the EMH and Chakotay — hell, even Tom on occasion — have tried to address some of those psychological points to her to varying degrees of success. It's not that she doesn't absorb what they say or is unwilling to hear them out so much as she cannot afford to. Her armor has to remain in place; it can't crack or weaken, can't warp around the edges. She's well aware that regular sessions with a counselor would do her a lot of good, but that's one of the many things that Voyager left Deep Space 9 without.

She knows what her faults are, knows what labeling would likely be applied. She knows her coping methods aren't always the best, and that she's far from being a picture image of the ideal captaining model. Quite frankly, she doesn't much care at this point. If Starfleet wants to take her to task for keeping Voyager a Starfleet vessel with a crew that was alive and thriving, who hasn't had to outright break the Prime Directive in order to survive, then so be it.

"Shouldn't I be the one thanking you for listening?"