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timedaughter ([personal profile] timedaughter) wrote in [community profile] nysalogs2018-11-11 01:51 pm

It doesn't have to make sense, it's sci-fi

Who: Jenny ([personal profile] timedaughter) & River ([personal profile] retrorsum)
What: River attempts to come clean (maybe) while Jenny succeeds in being clever, whether or not any of it works out.
When: Continuing from this inbox thread.
Where: The stasis pods
Warning(s): n/a


[To any average person, the pile of wires and metal that Jenny tumbles onto the ground would look like nothing more than scrap. The fact that River can make such quick sense of the small start she's made of it is delightfully telling. It's not often than Jenny finds someone who can keep up with her.

She huffs good-naturedly.]


That's an understatement! I haven't even managed to tweak this bit [she points at a metal thingamabob that has a proper name, but not one Jenny knows or cares about; it's what it does that's important] to calibrate properly with bio-data rather than... well, it's meant to scan text, actually. It should work once I upload my DNA sequence, but I haven't been able to find a way to actually do that. Adding any data not already converted to text form is beyond the silly thing. [it's a receipt scanner, Jenny, of course that's all it can do] Which means converting a specific part of my DNA to GATC and scanning it all at once, then using the tracker. [she points to another bit, equally unimpressive] Which... yes, the parameters are way off, but it still needs to be calibrated.
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-11 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean more specific.

( which, considering what they were working with even just converting her dna and getting it set to the tracker would be one thing, though with the both of them working on it (and a helpful sonic) it wouldn't be that much of a task.

though river's still reflecting on her words, trying to distract herself momentarily by looking from piece to piece, calculations working in the back of her mind )


If you scan for something similar it will lead back to you. A scanner like this won't filter that out. ( and depending on how well they could calibrate it it would also point to river ) You need to do more than two hearts.

( and yes, not the most helpful suggestion but she's still working on it )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-11 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
( oh, jenny. she's very glad that she's here to guide you. ask her later when she became the sensible one

it also takes her a moment to answer the question, partly because she didn't expect it and partly because she's still dancing around the topic )


I might be able to narrow it down to something closer to just him. ( she knows his biology very well ) It isn't just about filtering you out but also any other genetically similar individuals.

( other time lords basically. there was the other odd one scattered about the universe, never mind gallifrey hidden away

and herself. she's all but saying it now though that depends on how keen jenny's mind is )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-13 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
( it's actually a little relieving to have had jenny figure it out herself. really what is a relief is that the girl knows even if she didn't technically manage to tell her but she can feel embarrassed about that later. for now they have work to do )

There could be.

( river knows of one other and some other interesting cases. which also means that she needs to clarify something )

I'm not really a Time Lord, at least not like you or the Doctor are. ( she isn't gallifreyan, as much as her dna helix would try to tell you otherwise. where does the line get drawn between how human she is and how time lord? )

It's-- Proto Time Lord. ( that's the word she's been using, what she told her sisters ) My parents were human.

( though the specifics of that were for another story. or never. she picks up one of the pieces, running her sonic over it before connecting it up, sonic in place to 'build' it )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-15 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
( that's one secret she's going to sit on -- gallifrey. it's just rumours, a scrap of information that she's not entirely certain about but it isn't gone. at least not how it's believed to be )

It's a long story. ( and whilst usually river would just leave it there she gives jenny something more ) My parents were friends of his, travelling with him when my mother became pregnant.

( that time vortex. it's no wonder she's the tardis' favourite. what river doesn't tell her is what came after, the experiments by kovarian to bring out as much of that dna as possible, to try and make her fully time lord.

river kept working whilst sharing. jenny being able to work with her with little discussion reminds her of working with the doctor, though usually he questions what she plans and eventually realises that she's right. they're starting to get somewhere )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-18 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
( river isn't certain if she will tell it, at least not the full version. she'll find a modified version that she's comfortable explaining, though that's a problem for another day )

No. Here.

( jenny was right to check. if river wasn't modifying it then that piece would have gone where she'd thought. instead she indicates where to put it, already looking for the piece after.

she lets the conversation drop, just momentarily as they work to finish the device. this is the easier part and it doesn't take much longer before the scanner is complete )


Okay. We're halfway there.

( now to actually program what they need )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-18 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
I've known him for a long time.

( which given the naturally extended lifespan of a time lord really didn't say much. but it wasn't how long she'd known him that was important but how well. they were married after all.

river fiddles with the sonic, changing settings before scanning it over jenny and then pressing it to the scanner )


It'll be quicker to modify what we're looking for this way.

( which, whilst river was working on doing so, gave jenny the perfect time to slide in any other questions she had )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-26 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
( river almost expects it this time. she expects a question at the least, something personal but not this exact one.

her words come moments later, river wanting to finish one train of thought of her modifications before responding )


He is.

( now that she's already started being honest it's easier to )

It's why I know he'll be here.
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-26 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Something like that.

( something exactly like that. river just knew, she always knew. it's why she often managed to turn up at exactly the right time. she knew whether he was in danger, whether he needed her.

currently she needed him, even just the confirmation of him but at least stasis meant safety. for now )


I think-- ( she falls quiet again, focusing for a few moments before handing the device back to jenny ) Try that.

( it was her device. she should have the honour )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-26 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
( river doesn't need telling twice. she's quick on her feet, keeping the sonic to hand as she follows jenny's quick lead.

a thought occurs to her, given how wibbly wobbly time is (particularly surrounding him) -- which regeneration will they find?

but until they get to the pod river tries to brush that thought away )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
( running happens to be her speciality, amongst other things. add her fantastic sense of direction and river is absolutely almost in step with her. river stops only when jenny does, eyes darting to the pod--

it makes her hearts stop momentarily. rather than the faces that she'd been expecting to see, perhaps sandshoes, or her wonderful magician, they're greeted with an older (younger) face )


Oh, sweetie.

( she steps closer, resting her hand on the pod. it's been a long time since she's seen this face, not that he'd know it )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
( river is giving more away non-verbally than she would ever say, though she can't bring herself to try and hide it. she knew that this day was coming, the day when they would meet and he wouldn't know who she was but--

it breaks her hearts. river has met them all before, brief, meaningless glimpses, some in timelines that don't exist, but nothing lengthy. nothing like this, though river could never have expected this to occur.

her brain registers that jenny has said something but she doesn't respond, attention fixed on him, on his appearance, on the brief memory she has of him... on that silly scarf that truthfully she likes. her expression is sad, eyes closing for a few seconds before she pulls herself away from him, finally answering jenny )


He won't know me either.

( but, if they wanted to think of a plus side, at least they could console each other on that? )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
( there's an instinct in river to pull away, the part of her that has never known how to be comforted, has never since let anyone try. she doesn't, fighting that instinct, keeping jenny's hand in her own. it isn't just her that'll get hurt by this but the girl too -- the girl that hadn't gotten to know her father and perhaps wouldn't. not with him, anyway.

if she weren't in the moment, letting her emotions claw their way through her hearts, river would have realised one important thing, the thing that the device is now telling them. his different lives. the doctor may all be the same man but these people had plucked them out of their timestreams -- why take him from this point when he'd lived a longer life (and lives)?

she lets jenny lead again, her brain slowly starting to catch up, starting to hope that perhaps the husband she knows is in another pod somewhere. river almost doesn't want to, not wanting to get hurt by the same disappointment twice, but wouldn't it be wonderful? )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
( river keeps jenny close to her, letting the girl take whatever comfort she needs. this time river doesn't approach the pod, trying to steel her hearts away from the pain.

jenny's right, they shouldn't be able to do this but at the same time-- )


He's crossed his own time stream before. ( encountered himself. river knew that he'd not been able to remember those events in clarity, it prevented the timeline from becoming altered, but at the same time... it had happened.

but that doesn't make this any better. it makes river angry too, the fire bursting through her shakes her sadness away. but then again... if they've seen two of him-- )


We need to boost the signal.

( she takes the scanner from her, using the sonic to try and refine what they're getting. this time multiple signals ping up at once )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
( she knows what all of those pings mean. he's had thirteen different faces, twelve doctors and one soldier. her gaze dips down, looking down at the locations of the pings, trying to map them in her head. there are a few that are close by but how many times are they going to investigate?

river squeezes jenny's hand, trying to offer some comfort to the girl, even if it is weak )


I had it scan for your DNA. Outside of you the only person it would be picking up would be him. ( and apparently every version of him that they'd gotten their hands on. river knew that she'd come back later, perhaps working on the scanner more to isolate some more of his signs to a specific version, but she wasn't going to drag jenny into that now. the girl didn't need it.

slowly river hands the scanner back to her, letting go of her hand to reach into her jacket. from it she removes her diary, something that really shouldn't fit into her inner jacket pocket but somehow has.

wordlessly she starts opening the pages, stopping at one before turning it around to jenny, pulling out a line of photographs )


This is your father -- every face that he's ever had.

( his past, the one that jenny knows, and the ones that river married )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
You wouldn't notice.

( whilst river is normally incredibly secretive about her diary, and won't let jenny actually read it, she leaves the pictures out longer than she usually would, letting jenny familiarise herself with them, to learn something more about her father.

and herself. river had had to work incredibly hard in her later years to prevent her husband from being able to realise who she was -- that he knew her (when he was younger), that she was part-time lord. though it had ended up backfiring on her -- somehow she hadn't recognised him. deep down river had, something about him had been so familiar but she hadn't believed that he could have another face. that belief, and perhaps the limitations of her psionic abilities, made that failing )


It's an intuitive sense. Your telepathic abilities allow you to be able to recognise him no matter how he looks.

( which is why it doesn't work with a photograph )
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
( there's one respect in which jenny and river are alike: neither of them has known, nor can really miss gallifrey. and that is where, to river, the comparison ends. though they're both unique in themselves, making them alone in the universe, river feels alone for so many other reasons. she's never had a home, never found something like that to connect to. whatever hole she didn't realise was there ended up being filled by the doctor. it's something that she recognises now, feeling his absence keenly when they're apart (more so now when he's so close and yet not here) but at least she knows that he's safe.

river nods at jenny's assessment, believing her right that there's likely each of his regenerations here. there isn't use in tracking them down but river knows that she will -- to make sure she knows where he is, that he is always, always safe, and on the occasional time for sentimentality. just to see him, to hope. to remember herself )


But we know that he's here. ( just not which version of him that they may meet if and when he woke up.

she folds the pictures away, closing her diary but not yet putting it away. she wants to do something for jenny, something that river hopes will help. so far she's told her more about herself, about what being gallifreyan and time lord is, but there's something else that river keenly knows )


I could tell you about him. It won't be much, not like having him here, but it doesn't seem like you got to know him before.
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[personal profile] retrorsum 2018-11-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I know a good place.

( river would have taken them to the sort-of cafe that morrison had taken her, to eat and get a drink but this isn't a conversation that river wants to have in public. it isn't a secret, even if the finer details of her life are something that she'd rather keep private, but she can't help the almost secretive nature to herself, the urge to keep this conversation just between them.

old habits are hard to break. it's why, as river starts to lead them back towards the transport, that she decides to take jenny to the place that she'd been given. she doesn't particularly call it home, even her home on luna has taken effort for river to consider it that, but it's somewhere. it's private and mostly comfortable )


And perhaps you can tell me what happened to you after you left him.

( less the details of the adventure and more an effort to get to know the girl. for now river was all that jenny had and regardless of that this girl was someone in her life, someone that was (scarily) quickly feeling important. she needed to know her and later river would realise that she also had the need to make sure she was protected )